There are numerous circumstances defining the price of every single watch besides the margin we're aiming to achieve. The core concept of almost any business presumes taking over your risks, therefore, every step you find below is designed to reduce your risks and ensure positive collecting experience.
Though many privates and dealers are listing watches the next second they buy it, it is important to understand that in reality, every single watch requires something to be done. Therefore, every watch goes through several preparation stages:
An essential task for a true professional dealer. It is important not only to make a few attractive photos but also to be precise and honest.
Nothing is simple if you do it right. It took us hundreds of watches to sell to develop the best handling processing and policies.
The most important and the most valuable part of our job. It is actually why professional dealers have customers. Among the most important points are:
It is often not obvious whether the dealer you're looking at is trustworthy or not. The market is full of "flying" dealers who have nothing except a website, private collectors flipping some watches for fun, dealers-wannabes entering the market with a hope to get "easy money" and dishonest full-time dealers with unclear policies. All of them today can have a good looking website but not all of them can have a good infrastructure and reputation.
Quality and safety cost money. We do our job professionally and responsibly, taking over all your risks at every stage of the process and spending many hours on every single watch we offer.
Many people think that every other professional dealer has at least 100% on every watch sold. That might have been true 15 years ago but it's not like that anymore if the dealer does his job honestly. The added value is different for every watch and is defined by the buying price of the watch, expenses and works performed, operational costs and finally average market price. Even though we can't disclose our margins, we can share some facts about our pricing for your consideration:
Generally, our prices are final prices and we are not able to offer discounts. Out policy is:
First of all, to say that you must be really sure that the compared watch is also 100% correct and is actually same. As stated above, in most cases there are no 2 absolutely identical vintage watches. Something is always a bit different: design, condition, service history, patina, parts, etc.
Collectors often say: "buy the seller not the watch", so if you're sure that the watch is as good as ours, and the seller is as trustable as we are - feel free to pull the trigger. Thankfully, it is an open market and everyone is free to take decisions!
Generally, we do not consider offers unless there is a special occasion for that.
The best price is the listed price minus 5% when the watch is paid by bank transfer. Unfortunately, there is no better best price : )
If you have further questions you can always contact us. We will be happy to assist!
The core concept of literally any collector is to have a vintage watch in the condition as close to brand new as possible keeping at the same time the absolute majority of parts original, as it came from the factory. That is why redone dials (even those which are masterpieces of refinishing when the differences with original untouched dial are uneven) decrease the value of the complete watch dramatically. Replaced bezels, hands, crowns, movement parts are less dramatic but still very significant as it still affects a lot the integrity of the watch.
In the row of key important factors and criterion, timekeeping (but not functionality and condition of the movement) stays among the last, as for example the presence of an original buckle. For instance, all major auction houses sell watches unserviced and often unmaintained, and the only thing they guarantee even while selling million EUR worth Patek Phillipe - is authenticity and that the movement works. You can always read the line "overhaul recommended at buyer's expense". The absolute majority of vintage watch dealers sell watches without any service, and often with only 1-month warranty not covering timekeeping.
Therefore, dealing with vintage watches, we are focused on "soft" restoration keeping as many original parts as possible even when we talk about the movement. There, apparently, parts which can hardly survive after 40 years - like mainspring or hairspring of the balance wheel, therefore these may require replacement, as well as broken parts. However, it very important to understand that there is no sense in replacing the part which is worn after 40 years, but not critically. As soon as watch movement is extremely precise, we are talking microns, rather than millimeters. In other words, a replacement must be clearly needed.
In fact, it is hardly possible to source for example brand new (NOS) escapement or a balance wheel (which still needs to be adjusted) for IWC cal.61. Even manufacturers often have no original parts and they use freshly made replacement parts. No vintage, no integrity. With some watches you simply can't do this - let's take original IWC Portuguese or and Patek Philippe Ref.533 from the 40s. Brand new unworn parts simply don't exist. Only used or newly made can be used for repairs (like Patek Philippe is doing now), so you often have to face a choice - you gain in precision or you preserve the value.Therefore, unfortunately, we are not able to guarantee timekeeping in a long run and have to add a special limitation to the warranty terms. We guarantee that every watch is fully functional, that all functions are working correctly, that it keeps working for at least 30 hours after being fully wound. However, we do not guarantee any better accuracy of -3 minutes / +3 minutes a day. Even though we strive to achieve the best possible performance when we service our timepieces.
It is always crucial to understand the size of the watch, especially when it comes to vintage watches which are generally considered as too small in comparison with what watch industry offers today. For example, the original Patek Philippe Calatrava introduced in the 1930s was only 31 mm in diameter, while today's classic Calatrava is 39 mm. When you think about 8 mm, it doesn't seem to be a big difference, but believe it is.
In our condition reports we normally disclose three most important parameters as follows: diameter without crown / lug-to-lug length / lug width.
Diameter without crown
It is, so far, the most important measurement to understand the size of a regular round-shaped watch.It helps you to understand proportions and overall look of the watch. It is important to consider width of the bezel and color of the dial, because certain combinations may make the watch look bigger, while some other smaller. It is all very individual, however there is common understanding:
This parameter will help you to understand whether the watch is comfortable for wearing. You should compare lug-to-lug width with the width of your wrist, and if lug-to-lug width is smaller or equal, then this watch shall be comfortable.
This measurement is defining what size of strap you need for the particular watch. Depending on era and manufacturer you can find watches with lug width between 14 mm and 24 mm. Most common sizes are 18 mm and 20 mm.